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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

Valdis Krebs <valdis@...>
 

Larry,

Yeah, I agree with the others -- $75 is peanuts for that work, unless you would be learning on the job.

Will they pay by the hour, or do they want a flat rate for the "3 month effort"? And what if the project is delayed -- by no fault of your own -- and it runs 6 months? [happens A LOT!]

OK, you have 10 years experience in KM, but how much experience in what they specifically ask for? And you have never been independent before -- will be learning on the job [maybe not content, but work style, etc]. Have you ever done an information flow analysis? How often have you played the liaison role? [I hope they are not hiring you to bridge silos they could not].

BTW, when I see this: "high level of experience dealing with corporate politics" it is usually code words for "we do not get along, this is a very rough environment" -- so you may want to consider ratcheting up your rate for "hazardous duty pay" ;-)

If you are fully experienced in what they specifically seek, I would start @ $150/hour, and adjust based on the above. A big consulting firm would probably charge $300/hour and put in a recent college grad with less than 5 years experience.

Good Luck,

Valdis

On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Larry Hawes wrote:

Valdis,

Thanks for your quick interaction! The client states that it is a
3-month contract. Project description as follows:

International law firm is seeking a Knowledge Management Subject
Matter Expert (SME) who will be able to assess the current information
flow, create a roadmap for better information sharing, and execute on
this plan. The SME will bring with them the best practices, tool and
strategy recommendations associated with Knowledge Management. The
ideal candidate will be able to comfortably act as liaison to business
users and IS. The candidate will have a high level of experience
dealing with corporate politics and a track record of finding common
ground to successfully roll out knowledge management projects with
similar clients.

Hope this helps you recommend an hourly rate to me. btrw, I have 10
years experience as a KM consultant, but none of it as an independent.

Thanks and best regards,

Larry

--- In sikmleaders@..., Valdis Krebs <valdis@...> wrote:

Depends on the work Larry... what exactly would you be doing for them?
and for how long?

Valdis


On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Larry Hawes wrote:

I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and
would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any
independent consulting.

The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract
work for a large international law firm based in Boston.

I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does
that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what
figure do you suggest.

Thanks again for any input you can offer!

Larry Hawes


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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

Larry Hawes
 

Valdis,

Thanks for your quick interaction! The client states that it is a
3-month contract. Project description as follows:

International law firm is seeking a Knowledge Management Subject
Matter Expert (SME) who will be able to assess the current information
flow, create a roadmap for better information sharing, and execute on
this plan. The SME will bring with them the best practices, tool and
strategy recommendations associated with Knowledge Management. The
ideal candidate will be able to comfortably act as liaison to business
users and IS. The candidate will have a high level of experience
dealing with corporate politics and a track record of finding common
ground to successfully roll out knowledge management projects with
similar clients.

Hope this helps you recommend an hourly rate to me. btrw, I have 10
years experience as a KM consultant, but none of it as an independent.

Thanks and best regards,

Larry

--- In sikmleaders@..., Valdis Krebs <valdis@...> wrote:

Depends on the work Larry... what exactly would you be doing for them?
and for how long?

Valdis


On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Larry Hawes wrote:

I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and
would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any
independent consulting.

The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract
work for a large international law firm based in Boston.

I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does
that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what
figure do you suggest.

Thanks again for any input you can offer!

Larry Hawes


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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

DeGard, Paulette H <Paulette.H.Degard@...>
 

Out on the west coast $75 an hour would be low. My rule of thumb is double what you would like to take home so if you want to make $75 an hour charge $150 because the other $75 goes towards taxes, overhead expenses, technology, etc that one must pay for when doing contracting work. Although I work for Boeing now, I have been a contractor/consultant for most of my 25+ year career.

 

BTW, the question about length is also a variable – the longer the contract the lower the hourly rate, usually. However, never undersell yourself and you can always renegotiate your fees if the contract gets extended.

 

Good luck with your contract.

 

Paulette

 

Dr. Paulette DeGard

Knowledge Strategist

Lead, Process and Efficiency Team

Flight Deck

425-717-9238 (voice)

360-550-4099 (telecommute number on Fridays)


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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [sikmleaders] Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates

 

Larry:

I'm with Carl on the fee. Too low, especially for Boston.

Peter Dorfman

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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

Valdis Krebs <valdis@...>
 

Depends on the work Larry... what exactly would you be doing for them? and for how long?

Valdis

On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Larry Hawes wrote:

I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and
would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any
independent consulting.

The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract
work for a large international law firm based in Boston.

I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does
that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what
figure do you suggest.

Thanks again for any input you can offer!

Larry Hawes


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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

Carl Frappaolo <cfraff@...>
 

Larry:

Seems too low to be honest.  At least 100


On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Larry Hawes <lehawes@...> wrote:

I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and
would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any
independent consulting.

The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract
work for a large international law firm based in Boston.

I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does
that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what
figure do you suggest.

Thanks again for any input you can offer!

Larry Hawes




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Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

Larry Hawes
 

I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and
would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any
independent consulting.

The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract
work for a large international law firm based in Boston.

I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does
that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what
figure do you suggest.

Thanks again for any input you can offer!

Larry Hawes


Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

Peter Dorfman <pdorfman@...>
 

Larry:

I'm with Carl on the fee. Too low, especially for Boston.

Peter Dorfman

On Fri Jan 16 12:04 , Carl Frappaolo <cfraff@...> sent:











Larry:

Seems too low to be honest.  At least 100

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Larry Hawes <lehawes@...> wrote:


















I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and

would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any

independent consulting.



The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract

work for a large international law firm based in Boston.



I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does

that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what

figure do you suggest.



Thanks again for any input you can offer!



Larry Hawes

























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Co-founder and Principal
Information Architected, Inc.
Ten Post Office Square
Boston, MA 02109
617-933-2584
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Re: Consultant/Contractor Hourly Billing Rates #consulting

katepugh@...
 

Larry -
Here is a hourly rate calculator:
Go under resources, "Price your services." The pdf example reflects outdated costs, but you can update it.
Kate
 
 
Katrina Pugh
katepugh@...
617 967 3910 (m)
781 538 5262 (l)
 
In a message dated 1/16/2009 12:04:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cfraff@... writes:

Larry:

Seems too low to be honest.  At least 100

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Larry Hawes <lehawes@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am in need of quick validation of an hourly billing rate figure and
would appreciate your input. It's been a while since I've done any
independent consulting.

The specific opportunity is to perform a consulting project/contract
work for a large international law firm based in Boston.

I'm thinking $75/hour would be acceptable to the client and me. Does
that seem reasonable to you? If not, is it too high or low and what
figure do you suggest.

Thanks again for any input you can offer!

Larry Hawes




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Carl Frappaolo
Co-founder and Principal
Information Architected, Inc.
Ten Post Office Square
Boston, MA 02109
617-933-2584
cf@informationarchitected.com
blog:  www.takingaiim.com





mzaharee <mzaharee@...>
 

Our Knowledge Services group is developing a content strategy,
primarily for unstructured content, that will guide our initiatives
and work program over the next few years. We would be interested in
hearing from other organizations about their efforts in this area. We
would like our subject matter experts (SME) to collaborate and share
with their peers. If you are interested, please have your SME contact
Betsy Cogliano (bfc@..., 781-271-7834). No need to reply all,
Betsy will make sure contact information among the responders is
shared.

Some background info to clarify the issue is included below.

Thanks in advance,
Marcie Zaharee

__________________
We have identified many facets of content that we think need to be
addressed in the strategy:
• Content creation and capture
• Findability
• Standards
• Quality/value
• Sensitivity/access control
• Information lifecycle
• Tools for tagging, managing, storing, etc.
• Types – Web content, Sharepoint lists, document libraries,
Wikis, Blogs, Listservs, etc.

And we have identified some areas that we think need to be addressed
first:
• Understanding the capabilities of our new Content Management
System (Oracle)
• Where content is captured, stored
• A Corporate metadata strategy
• Using value to guide the strategy and the stewardship
• Findability – if it exists, can we find it?

We would be interested in hearing from others about their efforts in
this area. Do they have a content strategy? If so, seeing examples
would be great. If not, have they thought about these issues ? Have
they addressed them in some other way?


Value of Facebook friend about 37 cents: NYTimes Blog #social-media

Tom Short <tman9999@...>
 

In this article in the NYTimes , Jenna Wortham discusses a Burger King promotion offering Facbook users a free Whopper (value: about $3.70)  if they delete 1o of their friends.  Interesting read in terms of the reactions of users who were interviewed, and the reasons they gave as to why it would be difficult to weed out 10 people from their lists of up to 600 (or more) "friends."  I particularly liked the answer given by a gentleman who said he thought it would be easy, but ended up getting stuck at seven because he grew concerned about what information he might miss if he deleted people, even though he was no longer in constant communication with them. 

Not being a Facebook user (I know - webcretin) this to me is an interesting insight into the motivation for some people to use these types of sites - in addition to being a popularity contest (who can accumulate the most friends), also appears to be a way to build one's own custom set of narrowcasting info channels, based on the vetted relationships one has developed.  Makes sense - even if it's three relationships beyond some person you were once dating, it doesn't mean that person's perspective and info flows may not still be of some interest, in some particular areas.


Re: Value of Facebook friend about 37 cents: NYTimes Blog #social-media

Peter Dorfman <pdorfman@...>
 

I first got on Facebook about a year ago, and at that time I went looking for
groups in a couple of my key interest areas (knowledge management and IT service
management/ITIL). From those groups, I friended a number of people I didn't know,
but who simply shared these interests. Also, I've accepted friend requests from
an additional number of strangers, sometimes pretty indiscriminately. I know I
would not have any problem deleting 10 of these people.

Does that say something about me and my networking proclivities?

Then again...I wouldn't touch a Whopper with a 10-foot pole.

Peter Dorfman
KnowledgeFarm
http://pdorfman.wordpress.com

On Mon Jan 12 11:05 , 'Tom Short' <tman9999@...> sent:











In this article in the NYTimes , Jenna Wortham discusses a Burger King promotion
offering Facbook users a free Whopper (value: about $3.70)  if they delete 1o of
their friends.  Interesting read in terms of the reactions of users who were
interviewed, and the reasons they gave as to why it would be difficult to weed
out 10 people from their lists of up to 600 (or more) "friends."  I particularly
liked the answer given by a gentleman who said he thought it would be easy, but
ended up getting stuck at seven because he grew concerned about what information
he might miss if he deleted people, even though he was no longer in constant
communication with them. 

Not being a Facebook user (I know - webcretin) this to me is an interesting
insight into the motivation for some people to use these types of sites - in
addition to being a popularity contest (who can accumulate the most friends),
also appears to be a way to build one's own custom set of narrowcasting info
channels, based on the vetted relationships one has developed.  Makes sense -
even if it's three relationships beyond some person you were once dating, it
doesn't mean that person's perspective and info flows may not still be of some
interest, in some particular areas.




Re: Adoption Rate #metrics

Murray Jennex
 

My colleagues and I have been researching KM success for several years with the express purpose of identifying:
 
a success model
a set of critical success factors
a definition of KM success
a set of KM success measures
a set of KM success KPIs
 
I will be happy to share our findings with the group in a few weeks but will first ask for a short confirmation survey (we are finalizing our results and I would like to see what this group thinks of them so want your opinion before sharing all the docs - this is so we don't bias you, not because we are trying to entice you)
 
I did want to make one comment on use measures:  I don't think they mean much as long as you can show that your KM/KMS is getting some use.  What I have found to be a much better predictor of KM success is the intent to use of our knowledge workers.  What intent to use means is that the knowledge worker intends to go to the system when they have a question.  Why this is a good predictor is due to the use of the Perceived Benefit Model based off of the Theory of Unplanned Action (and what this all really means is that the organization and the knowledge worker see value in the system so intend to use when its needed).  I've published these results in the article citation below (I can send you a file if you can't find it if you let me know):
 

Jennex, M.E., (2008).  “Exploring System Use as a Measure of Knowledge Management Success,” Journal of Organizational and End User Computing, 20(1), pp. 50-63.

 
The bottom line is amount of actual use doesn't mean much, the quality of use and using it when appropriate are much better indicators of success and Perceived Benefit is a way of measuring if a user will use the system when appropriate.
 
Thanks...murray jennex
 
Murray E. Jennex, Ph.D., P.E., CISSP
San Diego State University
Editor in Chief International Journal of Knowledge Management
Co-editor in Chief International Journal of Information Systems for Crisis Response and Management
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2009 10:52:56 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, john.mcquary@... writes:
At Fluor, we measure our knowledge communities as being successful if
they are delivering results on their objectives, however we do maintain
numerous statistics including unique users per month.  In any typical
month, about 55% of our 28,000+ members will go into the system at
least once.  Over any three month period we see just over 70% unique
logins.  As of Jan 8 2009 10:39AM PST, there have been 26.2% unique
users this month.

- John


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Expertise Survey - We'd like your input #expertise #survey #research

Matt Moore <laalgadger@...>
 

Hello,

Patrick Lambe & myself are engaging in some research on expertise. How the expertise of staff gets nurtured, shared and used by organisations (or not). We think it's an important topic and some of the discussions on this list indicate that you do too.

Part of this research involves collecting stories & experiences.

We have a nifty form here for the contributing of stories: http://usingexpertise.com/2008/12/contribute-story.html

You can see stories from others on our blog: http://usingexpertise.com/ (where you can also make comments on the stories of others)

Once we have a sufficient number of stories, we'll be conducting sensemaking workshops with them. Let me stress that all stories will be anonymised. You could contribute them under a false name and email if you really wanted to but then you may not here about future project developments so I would not recommend that. More on our plans here: http://usingexpertise.com/2008/12/about.html

WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU:

- We'd love you to contribute your stories on the topic of expertise. They can be as detailed or as high-level as you like.
- Please read some of the other stories and add comments if you want.
- Please pass this on to colleagues inside your organisation who may have stories of your own to tell.
- If you have a blog or a newsletter then please tell people about this if you think it will be relevant to them.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regards,

Matt Moore


Re: Valuing Social Capital #value #IC

Joe Raimondo
 


Re: Adoption Rate #metrics

jacobwatts <jacob.watts@...>
 

Thank you for your response Andrew. Your stat for a community
implementation makes more sense. Now that I'm thinking about it, we
do have a grassroots CoP with about a 20% membership rate and
probably half of them are regularly active in the community.

For our implementation, I believe we should be at a 95%+ adoption
rate on a monthly basis, as we operate in an extremely complex
environment. In addition to the volume of processes we have
internally and with other internal organizations, we offer a wide
variety of products that are on various platforms, making it
impossible for anyone to know everything WebEx, regardless of
tenure. I can't imagine that any individual could go an entire month
without having at least one opportunity to use the system.
Realistically we could probably say our organization should be at a
95% adoption rate on a ~weekly basis, but changing the everyday
workflow and habits of a largely tenured organization doesn't come
easy, so at the moment a monthly measurement seems to make sense.
Our last 9 months we've averaged over 70% adoption, which I
consider 'not bad' under the circumstances, but would like to see
improved upon. From a management perspective I've asked managers not
to focus on enforcing usage through metrics to avoid turning the
system into a button-mashing contest, so I feel the adoption we are
seeing is genuine.

I am definitely interested in hearing other experiences on the
subject, and would like to see what kind of consensus the group comes
to.


Re: Adoption Rate #metrics

john_mcquary <john.mcquary@...>
 

At Fluor, we measure our knowledge communities as being successful if
they are delivering results on their objectives, however we do maintain
numerous statistics including unique users per month. In any typical
month, about 55% of our 28,000+ members will go into the system at
least once. Over any three month period we see just over 70% unique
logins. As of Jan 8 2009 10:39AM PST, there have been 26.2% unique
users this month.

- John


Re: Adoption Rate #metrics

Andrew Gent <ajgent@...>
 

Hi Jacob,

Great question. Unfortunately, I think the answer is the inevitable "it depends".

What does it depend on? It depends on what your target audience is and what their expected usage pattern would be. While I was at HP, our monthly usage (i.e. unique users) for SharePoint reached 100K (that was 2/3 of the total company population) before we stopped counting. Our original target had been 50% of our specific organization a month.

On the other hand, our target for a catalog of past projects was around 1 or 2 thousand users a month.

Why the difference? We expect SharePoint users (for self-serve collaboration spaces) to use the space at least once a week -- in many cases it is actually more than once a day. We also expected up to 80% of the organization to participate in projects. The project catalog, on the other hand, is usually used only when people are starting projects and looking for previous examples or when they get stuck and are looking for assistance from people with similar experience. Some fuzzy logic about how many new projects started a year and who was most likely to need the information (project managers, architects, and project leads), we came up with a target of 10-15% of the organization per month.

So in your case, it would depend on who and how often you expect people to need the documentation.

--Andrew Gent

P.S. My example of 20% was from a few collaboration technology implementations I knew of.


From: jacobwatts
To: sikmleaders@...
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 1:09:25 PM
Subject: [sikmleaders] Adoption Rate

Hello, everyone. As a silent member for a few months now I thought
I'd briefly introduce myself (and thereby my situation) before posing
my first question to the community.

I am a senior program manager for Cisco WebEx (formerly WebEx
Communications) within the account management (service)
organization. Internally I am referred to as the Knowledge Base
Manager, and I am responsible for the success of our organization' s
implementation of a knowledge base. The implementation began just
over 2 years ago, and went live around mid-2007. The KB is used for
process documentation as well as typical product-related content
(usability questions and problem resolution).

One of the measurements I look at to evaluate usage (and consider a
barometer of success) is total unique users per month. If people
don't find what they're looking for, they don't come back. If they
continue to return, I feel we can safely conclude that it ~is~
working for them more often than not, so a positive trend in this
area indicates a successful implementation. (When I say successful
implementation, I mean "we're on the right track," not "we're
done.") Here's where my question comes from: through reading the
threads in this forum I ran into Andrew Gent's blog, where he
states "Frequently, an adoption rate as low as 20% is considered
success for a KM initiative."
(http://incrediblydu ll.blogspot. com/2008/ 09/alternatives- to-
collaboration. html) Not to dispute that this is his experience, but
this does seem extremely low to me – although it does sound like he
is referring more towards community-based collaboration efforts than
a systemic implementation like mine. Regardless, it did raise again
the questions in my mind which I thought would be best answered by
this group:

With a KM systems implementation (whether KB or other CMS), what
adoption rate do you consider a success? What adoption rates have
you seen in your experience?

The assumption here is that we agree on how I'm measuring the
adoption rate, which could be a conversation all on its own. Thanks
in advance for any insight you have on this subject.

-Jacob Watts



Adoption Rate #metrics

jacobwatts <jacob.watts@...>
 

Hello, everyone. As a silent member for a few months now I thought
I'd briefly introduce myself (and thereby my situation) before posing
my first question to the community.

I am a senior program manager for Cisco WebEx (formerly WebEx
Communications) within the account management (service)
organization. Internally I am referred to as the Knowledge Base
Manager, and I am responsible for the success of our organization's
implementation of a knowledge base. The implementation began just
over 2 years ago, and went live around mid-2007. The KB is used for
process documentation as well as typical product-related content
(usability questions and problem resolution).

One of the measurements I look at to evaluate usage (and consider a
barometer of success) is total unique users per month. If people
don't find what they're looking for, they don't come back. If they
continue to return, I feel we can safely conclude that it ~is~
working for them more often than not, so a positive trend in this
area indicates a successful implementation. (When I say successful
implementation, I mean "we're on the right track," not "we're
done.") Here's where my question comes from: through reading the
threads in this forum I ran into Andrew Gent's blog, where he
states "Frequently, an adoption rate as low as 20% is considered
success for a KM initiative."
(http://incrediblydull.blogspot.com/2008/09/alternatives-to-
collaboration.html) Not to dispute that this is his experience, but
this does seem extremely low to me – although it does sound like he
is referring more towards community-based collaboration efforts than
a systemic implementation like mine. Regardless, it did raise again
the questions in my mind which I thought would be best answered by
this group:

With a KM systems implementation (whether KB or other CMS), what
adoption rate do you consider a success? What adoption rates have
you seen in your experience?

The assumption here is that we agree on how I'm measuring the
adoption rate, which could be a conversation all on its own. Thanks
in advance for any insight you have on this subject.

-Jacob Watts


Re: Valuing Social Capital #value #IC

Larry Hawes
 

Valdis et al,

I think you are on the right track when putting Probablity forward as
a believable metric for measuring the value of social capital. A
research-intensive firm (e.g. Xerox, 3M, Sony) should, at least
ideally, have a documented history of past experimentation. This
history would allow them to discover ratios of project success to
failure for various initiatives with different partners (thinking
links, not nodes.) That ratio would communicate probability of
success when different partners collaborate to innovate.

To carry this notion a step further, we could actually derive a hard
currency value by determining the profit accrued from each past
successful innovation effort, calculating average profit, and
correlating that figure to the probability of project success. I
suppose the equation might be:

Average profit per successful innovation attempt X Probability of
success of innovation attempt = Potential value of Social Capital
focused on innovation

Feel free to rip this apart. I'm not a math whiz, but I suspect that
this is over simplified. I hope the concept makes sense at minimum,
but I may be off there too, so please bend this any way that seems to
make sense to you.

Thanks all,

Larry Hawes

--- In sikmleaders@..., Valdis Krebs <valdis@...> wrote:

Interesting angle on measuring social capital... much of what you
benefit from you don't own!!! Often the key links are to expertise/
knowledge/insights outside of the firm. Human capital is like
financial capital, you you either own it or you don't. Social capital
-- again we are focusing on the links -- is "owned" by both parties
that create the link.

Human and financial capital are measured in actuals -- we have X
dollars and Y employees. Social capital will probably be based on
probables -- we have X ties to Y resources which may result in Z new
products. How many opportunities/possibilities did Apple have before
they created the iPod? We know the iPod was a result of having key
EXTERNAL ties -- the iPod was NOT a totally inborn product solely from
Apple.

<wild guess>
Maybe this is like Quantum physics vs. Newtonian physics... we can
measure and know the location of the apple that fell on Newton's head
[urban legend?] but we can only guess where the electrons are at any
particular time -- we can calculate a probability of their location.
We can not assure an iPod will be created, but we might be to measure
the probability that something new and worthwhile may be created from
this intersection of people/ideas/markets/opinions/influence/etc.
</wild guess>

Valdis


On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Tom Short wrote:

Interesting, and intuitively it makes sense - the idea of the lone
inventor toiling away and coming up with a eureka moment has been
discredited before.

So innovation and worker effectiveness would both seem to benefit
from higher levels of social capital. I wonder if anyone has
studied firms in similar industries and correlated higher
profitability with higher levels of social capital?

--- In sikmleaders@..., Valdis Krebs <valdis@> wrote:

There are actually plenty of metrics including ones on innovation -
-
Ron Burt found in one study that engineers in certain network
locations tend to have better *implementable* ideas!

We can't think finance and accounting here... stop measuring the
nodes
and start measuring the links and the link patterns! We need to
look
at new metrics like opportunity, influence, integration,
awareness, etc.

Valdis


On Jan 6, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Tom Short wrote:


As far as how to characterize SC as an asset, yes, perhaps an
intangible asset (viz "goodwill") is a way to do this. Now if
only we
had some metrics ;-).


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